9 Responses to Gout...and Crohn's...

1. mellissa_600 on 2007-10-31 01:33:03.425484

   Hi Jason,
   thanks for your reply. He takes a Yakult every morning. When you say
   probiotics do you mean capsules/tablets or just something like a
   yakult?
   Thanks again
   Cheers
   Jan

2. hank_900 on 2007-10-31 00:19:37.113235

   I would do both, eat yogurt and sour dairy as well as take a good probiotic. I have seen people who suffer with Crohn's do 100% better after being on a friendly bacteria replacement regiment for a few months. Also do not let him drink chlorinated water.
   
   Hi Jason,
   thanks for your reply. He takes a Yakult every morning. When you say
   probiotics do you mean capsules/tablets or just something like a
   yakult?
   Thanks again
   Cheers
   Jan

3. mellissa_600 on 2007-10-31 17:35:38.906155

   Hi again!
   Forgot to mention the water.
   We drink tap water but with a BRITA filter. Is this enough?
   Thanks
   Jan

4. mellissa_600 on 2007-11-01 03:35:25.270170

   Hello again,
   Thanks for your suggestions. Well, he used to eat organic yogurt and
   yakult every morning but then he decided to give up on both...just to
   see if there were some improvements...he's been admitted to hospital
   Saturday with what they call an exacerbated Crohn's attack +
   cellulitis + anemia...not forgetting the gout! Tests are being done
   but their (our) major concern was/is our GP didn't 'see' the
   infection coming and spreading...
   We've made an appointment with a nutritionist end this month because
   we are completely lost with what to eat/what not to eat! What seems
   to work for gout is not good for Crohn's and vice-versa.
   Anyway, I'll leave her advice and suggestions on this forum. Maybe
   they will be of help for somebody else.
   Bye for now and once again many thanks
   Jan

5. jeri_8 on 2007-11-01 23:37:31.330436

   [This message edited to remove strange characters at the beginning of the subject and end of the message. My guess is it's Chinese, but my browser and email reader couldn't handle it, and things seemed clear enough without it... -- Terry]
   
   Regarding yogurt, I once read a magazine at the plane (it should be the official magazine of Dragonair, now merged with Cathay Pacific) saying that gout sufferers should not have yogurt. This info makes me confused with the positive correlation of diary products and gout, as suggested by most researches. I don't know much about Crohn's so I cannot comment.
   
   Cheers,
   
   Edward
   eelnivek53@... »¡¡G
   
   I would do both, eat yogurt and sour dairy as well as take a good probiotic. I have seen people who suffer with Crohn's do 100% better after being on a friendly bacteria replacement regiment for a few months. Also do not let him drink chlorinated water.
   
   Hi Jason,
   thanks for your reply. He takes a Yakult every morning. When you say
   probiotics do you mean capsules/tablets or just something like a
   yakult?
   Thanks again
   Cheers
   Jan

6. hank_900 on 2007-11-02 04:29:34.537341

   The older the filter gets the less contaminants it can take out. Activated charcoal can only absorb so much and gets less efficient with each use. I have a reverse osmosis system for my drinking water. You can buy reverse osmosis bottled water or replace the Brita filter often.
   
   Hi again!
   Forgot to mention the water.
   We drink tap water but with a BRITA filter. Is this enough?
   Thanks
   Jan

7. hank_900 on 2007-11-02 12:03:27.849807

   Yogurt is fine in fact helpful, but the plain mixed with your own fruits (frozen or fresh) is what you want to do. Some premixed yogurts are too full of refined sugar and use low quality fruit sources. You can make smoothies with plain yogurt, frozen fruit, cherry concentrate and a little unpasteurized honey or stevia.
   
   Purported risk factors for gout include high body mass index (BMI), older age, hypertension, alcohol use, diuretic use, and chronic renal failure. Animal models and some human studies have suggested that a purine-rich diet may precipitate or exacerbate gout by a hyperuricemic effect. However, the bioavailability of purine in different foods varies substantially and it is difficult to predict whether a certain "purine rich" food or food group affects gout, and if so, by how much. Milk proteins (casein and lactalbumin), on the other hand, have been shown to reduce serum uric acid levels in healthy subjects because of a uricosuric effect. A study by Ghadirian and colleagues, published in the June 1995 issue of the European Journal of Epidemiology, showed that four weeks of a dairy-free diet was associated with a significant increase in uric acid levels.
   
   [This message edited to remove strange characters at the beginning of the subject and end of the message. My guess is it's Chinese, but my browser and email reader couldn't handle it, and things seemed clear enough without it... -- Terry]
   Regarding yogurt, I once read a magazine at the plane (it should be the official magazine of Dragonair, now merged with Cathay Pacific) saying that gout sufferers should not have yogurt. This info makes me confused with the positive correlation of diary products and gout, as suggested by most researches. I don't know much about Crohn's so I cannot comment.
   
   Cheers,
   Edward
   eelnivek53@aol.com 說ï¼
   
   I would do both, eat yogurt and sour dairy as well as take a good probiotic. I have seen people who suffer with Crohn's do 100% better after being on a friendly bacteria replacement regiment for a few months. Also do not let him drink chlorinated water.
   
   Hi Jason,
   thanks for your reply. He takes a Yakult every morning. When you say
   probiotics do you mean capsules/tablets or just something like a
   yakult?
   Thanks again
   Cheers
   Jan

8. church_16 on 2007-11-03 14:37:32.910226

   Hi everybody. I haven't posted in a long time, but this post piqued my interest because the topic concerns a GI issue. I have celiac disease (leaky gut in sm. Intestine) - my MIL had it too. My DH has gout and high bp. My SIL has had her gallbladder out and had hyperparathyroidism. Her DD has polycystic kidney disease, her DS has Bright's disease (name changed recently, but I don't remember what it was) - a kidney disease. I've read a lot about gluten the past year and keep suggesting my DH try eating gluten-free and sugar free to get off his meds. He's not into that (he tested negative by blood test for celiac, but 30-50% of the gluten-eating population are "sensitive" ... he's still not willing to go there). I know probiotics are wonderful for everybody; he's only now considering taking them. I've been taking them for a year now - can't tell much of a difference even with the celiac. But I didn't have associated GI problems associated with celiac either. I
   think I'm numb from the waist down? Lol Anyway, I may also not be taking enough - for best effect you're to take a pill a day and gradually increase it until you get gassy. Then back off a pill and that would be your daily dose. I didn't recognize the name of yogurt you talked about, but you can also drink Kefir - a liquid yogurt with more bacteria. It comes flavored and sugared, but you can also find unflavored and unsweetened. DH says it reminds him of buttermilk.
   
   I can tell you my DH is not a dairy person, unless it's ice-cream or buttermilk once in a while. He has asthma and it makes him phlegmy. So I'm interested if anyone has experience with this - or eating gluten free.
   
   P.S. I've read in my research this year that Crohn's could be considered the "celiac" of the large intestine and that a gluten-free diet helps. Have you ever read or tried?

9. mellissa_600 on 2007-11-03 10:42:00.610700

   Hi,
   Thanks for your post.
   I change the Brita filter every 4 weeks...it's a bit expensive.
   About reverse osmosis, I'm afraid I'll have to do some further
   reeading as I know nothing about it!
   Thanks again
   Jan

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